Chargepoint NACS

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looks like a few DC Chargepoints have NACS. Their HQ had it for a while now, but the other locations were installed the past couple of weeks.

2700 Bell Rd, Auburn, CA 95603
2789 E Bidwell St, Folsom, CA,95630
240 E Hacienda Ave, Campbell, CA 95008 (CP HQ)
 
tkmedia said:
looks like a few DC Chargepoints have NACS. Their HQ had it for a while now, but the other locations were installed the past couple of weeks.

2700 Bell Rd, Auburn, CA 95603
2789 E Bidwell St, Folsom, CA,95630
240 E Hacienda Ave, Campbell, CA 95008 (CP HQ)
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2700 Bell is only a few miles from my house in Auburn. It's the Target Store there. I go by there often, but those chargers are too close to my home to be useful. But I did use them once (June 16, 2023) to see if they were updated to the FW that would work with my Energica motorcycles. They were updated and worked perfectly.

I will have to go there again and look at their connectors.

Here is that location:

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-Don- Reno, NV
 
They have the AC power off at my Auburn, CA home as they are changing a power pole. Power off for four hours. I figure this would be a good time to charge up my Tesla here in Auburn, CA Bell Target.

I am NOW charging my 2018 Tesla M3 at the Bell CCS Chargepoint with the one NACS connector. Only one of the four DCFCs here have the NACS connector. I am charging at 44KW, battery at 50F, a little cold. I know of no way to precondition the battery for CCS, navigation does NOT do it.

I have a few comments as I am waiting at 44 KW to charge up.

The button on the handle will NOT open my charge door via wireless.

But the ChargePoint CCS on my 2018 Telsa Model 3 works fine. But I wonder if it would work if I did NOT recently change my charging ECU for CCS adapter support. I assume not. But I am NOT using any type of adapter.

Here are some photos:

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My battery temp is low. 50F outside:
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Note other charger has NO NACS connector. I am using the only NACS cable on the four Chargepoint CCS chargers.
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-Don- Target Store on Bell Road, Auburn, CA
 
That was my most expensive charge ever. But in Auburn, CA everything costs more:

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-Don- Auburn, CA
 
Interesting. I wonder if the port opening protocol is part of the new J3400 standard or if that's just a Tesla only thing. Regardless, you can always just tap the door, so not too big a deal.

I'd be curious to see if it would go up higher with a warmer battery and lower SOC.
 
Dirtman16 said:
Interesting. I wonder if the port opening protocol is part of the new J3400 standard or if that's just a Tesla only thing. Regardless, you can always just tap the door, so not too big a deal.

I'd be curious to see if it would go up higher with a warmer battery and lower SOC.
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Perhaps, but I was only using a 50KW charger as that was the one with the NACS connector I wanted to try out. I got near the 50KW just before the big drop off at close to 80% SOC.

And their fastest charger there only does 62.5 KW.

-Don- Auburn, CA
 
nice write up. I have a old 18 but have yet to get CCS update. can you not fake a pre condition in the nav by directing it to a super charger? but again its not much difference as they are not link shared to do 100+. my chargepoint has discounts and not exactly sure why. it is a super old membership.
 
tkmedia said:
nice write up. I have a old 18 but have yet to get CCS update. can you not fake a pre condition in the nav by directing it to a super charger? but again its not much difference as they are not link shared to do 100+. my chargepoint has discounts and not exactly sure why. it is a super old membership.
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I suppose I could trick it by navigating to a close by Tesla Supercharger and then going for the CCS charge. But not practical as then I would be using the nearby Tesla Supercharger anyway. But I probably could have used such a trick yesterday.

I wish there was a way to manually activate the battery preconditioning and read the battery temperature.

BTW, I think I heard something about an OTA Tesla update that will soon be coming to improve charging. But I have no idea what it does.

Does anybody here know how Tesla works out the home charging when below freezing?

You can update a Tesla at any time in the "Software" screen. The Password is "service".

Tesla Service Mode is a debugging utility designed to help service personnel diagnose problems on a Tesla EV1. To access Service Mode, you need to23:
  1. Navigate to Controls > Software.
  2. Tap and hold on the vehicle's model name that appears underneath the car's image until a water ripple appears.
  3. Release and type 'service' in the dialog box before hitting 'ok'.
  4. When asked for a code, enter “service”.

But if you want to charge via CCS in 2018 M3, first need to change your charging ECU.

I can give you the complete instruction on request later. I need to leave for now.


-Don- Auburn, CA
 
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thanks Don, but no instruction necessary. Im currently immobile, have difficult enough time getting to the next room rather than worry about driving.
 
Mockingbird said:
Obviously not since NACS is just CCS protocol over the Tesla connector
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Yeah, that is what I figured. It just makes it so no adapter is necessary.

It proves my charging ECU replacement for "ccs adapter support" is working well.

It's now been tested on all types of chargers.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
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